I love using this, it's super black black, and it's long lasting, stays on all day. the only issue is that it dries too quickly as you are applying it, and if you aren't having a good day and need to redraw the edges of your wing its very annoying because wetting them with more product doesn't melt them and help you draw, they strangely peel off and create patches. but if you are careful, its actually a super nice eyeliner.